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DBNG Saiyan Forms Chart by ElyasArts DBNG Saiyan Forms Chart by ElyasArts
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So just to show how in DragonBall Next-Gen the forms are made up.

_Normal Saiyan: Evolved form of the Saiyan race, the current saiyan.
_Super Saiyan: The super saiyan form is achieved when a powerful saiyan is angered to a boiling point. This will trigger the transformation.
_Super Saiyan 2: This form is acquired due to a great amount of energy, usually acquired through training. To trigger this form, the Saiyan must face a dark moment, much like the super saiyan transformation. 
_Descended Super Saiyan 3: A side form of the Perfect Super Saiyan 3. As the PSSj3 is acquired with pure blood, a pure heart, inner peace and a great amount of energy, this form is acquired with all except a pure heart. The energy needed in this form is twice as big as the Incomplete form.
_Incomplete Super Saiyan 3: This is, unlike the Descended version, achieved through a pure heart, pure blood and inner peace. The energy needed for this form is half as big as needed for the Descended form.
_Perfect Super Saiyan 3: [Info coming soon]
_Supreme Saiyan: [Info coming soon]

_Ancient Saiyan: Previously known as Super Saiyan 4, this form is the strong and powerful form of the Saiyan race before evolution and adaption occurred. The Saiyan race was, due to sharing their planet with weaker races, forced to devolve to their current state. The Saiyan race wasn't always cruel and ruthless, this is also a trait that had grown onto them through evolution. This form is acquired when the Saiyan taps into their ancient energy source through the Oozaru form. This is only possible if the Saiyan transforms into the Oozaru after acquiring the Super Saiyan 2. This will make the Oozaru become a golden Oozaru. From there, the Saiyan must find a way to control the power and come to its senses. This will trigger the Ancient Saiyan form's creation. To become the Oozaru, one must acquire a large amount of Blutz waves, usually absorbed by a Saiyan's tail through the vision of the moon.
_Ancient Super Saiyan: [Info coming soon]
_Super Saiyan God: This form is only acquired once the Saiyan has tapped into their Ancient energy source. This does not require the full access to Ancient Saiyan, only the access to the Ancient energy source. To achieve this form, 5 pure hearted saiyans must give their natural energy to the Saiyan who will become the Super Saiyan God. The energy they give must all be the same amount and synchronised. 

So there you go! As you can see, I changed many things, making Goku's SSj3 basically an incomplete one. This means Goku isn't as perfect as we thought! Haha!
If you've got any questions, shoot!

Hope you like it!

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Please read from right to left. This manga is drawn in the Japanese order.

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Next-Gen story and art of all pages are done by and belong to Elyas S. which is me.
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fababa Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2016  New Deviant Student
hey do you think you can say some multipliers for your forms
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
nope, never knew how those worked. But if you want to, go ahead! DBNG has been cancelled so I don't mind.
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fababa Featured By Owner Edited Jan 4, 2016  New Deviant Student
Well i have some ideas, sorry if they are too high by the way

SSJ 50X Base - SSJ2 2X SSJ - ISSJ3 2X SSJ2 - SSJ3 X2 ISSJ3 - SSJ4 or ASJ 10X SSJ3 - DSSJ3 9,5X SSJ3.

DSSJ3 ISSJ3 And ASJ are incomplete ssj3 descended ssj3 and ancient saiyan by the way and as i said sorry if i made them too high this is my first time. 
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't think they're high, I think that works!
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fababa Featured By Owner Edited Jan 5, 2016  New Deviant Student
Thanks! I really worked hard on making the Descended Super Saiyan 3 multiplier, I really tried to make him as close to the Ancient Saiyan multiplier.

I maked the Ancient Saiyan multiplier from your info. I thought that Golden Oozaru was a Super Saiyan 2 who went Oozaru, so i thought that the Ancient Saiyan was a SSJ3 Oozaru. So i just Ten-folded the SSJ3 multiplier.

Oh and the Perfect SSJ3 is More powerful than the Descended SSJ3?
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Perfect ssj3 is more powerful yes, and actually more powerful than Ancient Super Saiyan. Then comes ssj4 which I never got to, and unfortunately never designed.
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fababa Featured By Owner Edited Jan 5, 2016  New Deviant Student
how much powerful is the Ancient Super Saiyan than the Ancient Saiyan is it double or triple the power?

or is it like this?   ASSJ 50X ASJ
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd say more quadruple actually.
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WhiteT96 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015
Please complete the chart! It's so frustrating like that
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DA-MANLY-MAN Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2015
Are you ever going to update this? 
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gekido50 Featured By Owner May 28, 2015  Student Artist
What are the multipliers for your forms?  They look really good though!
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Internet-Illusion Featured By Owner May 27, 2015
C'mon, fill in those blanks!
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ChibiBardock Featured By Owner May 1, 2015
funny thing is that your color super saiyan god vegeta is the same as in the new movie! XD
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TempestVortex Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Hey dude, is the new SSGSS form going to be brought up in the chart? And when I mean mentioned I don't mean it's definitely going to be in DBNG.
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
No freaking idea. If I do, then the descended ssj3 for vegeta becomes useless. Specially if Vegeta goes SSGSS as well. 
I might just not include any of the BOG onwards stuff, idk.
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TempestVortex Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
I have a theory though. There would be a reason as to why Goku and Vegeta didn't use Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan God SS (excluding the fact that both were never made at the time). See my best way of thinking why this would be so is that Vegeta began kicking back a little during the Z to GT time period, and Goku was training Uub. Knowing Goku, there'd be no reason whatsoever to use Super Saiyan God or SSGSS during such, as there'd be no way Uub could handle such without nearly dying.

Because of such, the God power within Goku and Vegeta became dormant, thus unusable unless they were to train to 'reactivate' it again, which they never got the chance to do during GT, especially since the focus sort of was Super Saiyan 4 during the time (or in the case of DBNG, Ancient Saiyan).

Does that make sense, man?
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
that's pretty good, but the reason goku got ssgss is because he and vegeta trained with Whiss in the new movie. Which is the Z to GT time.
I may just make it that in NG the whole SSG never happened. 
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Remember how in dragon ball gt Goku and Vegeta were haxed compared to everyone else you can make it so it was becuase of the ssg power up and after using SSGSSJ and for the new transformation you can make them upgrades of ssjgssj by giving descended ssj 3 and ssj 2 and incomplete ssj 3 blye hair.
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TempestVortex Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
No, it's still during the 10 year gap between the Kid Buu Saga and the End of Z. Otherwise Pan wouldn't be a baby still, she'd be 4 years old like in the actual End of Z.
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gekido50 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2015  Student Artist
Supreme Saiyan > ancient super saiyan?
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Ohhhhh yes
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SuperSaiyanPinock Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2015  Student Interface Designer
Supreme saiyan > Super Saiyan God?
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Saberoph Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2015
I'm late to the part, but I have a very different views on the SS forms and their progression. I don't think Grade 2, 3 and SS3 are true natural progressions to the SS form it's self... kind of a side effect of the natural progression, like there's a right and wrong way of Ascending to higher power. Kakarrot and Gohan discovered the right way in the ROSAT, but I believe Kakarrot discovered the wrong way in his seven years of training. I believe there's a more balanced form past SS2, but not as taxing as SS3 is... more like a mid point between SS2 and SS3, and making SS3 more efficient is the same as making SS more efficient.

But that's just be, but either me it's really good and I appreciate the effort you put into it.
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sonicluke Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2014
Cool :)
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JamieSage Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014
I really like this flow chart its great I am just really confused on why there would be that turn point of SSJ3, like I get the hole choices thing but you could have made it more related to the supreme Sayian or SSJ4. Had the flow chart went like this

Normal - SSJ - SSJ2 - Incomplete SSJ3 - SSJ3 - Descended SSj3 - Supreme Sayian.

Then the second branch off the normal form of Ancient Sayian to the Ancient super Sayian to the Super Sayian God which is only obtained by taking the power of 5 other Ancient Super Sayian's. As for the looks of SSj3, Ancient Super Sayian and SSj4 easy thoughts.
SSj3 Looks: could be like incomplete SSJ3 but spiky and straight spiky not like the Anime.
SSj4 Looks: could make the hair smooth out from the SSj3 Descended look and not pointing up but down and gold of course, Only achieved if you have a tail.
Ancient Super Sayian: Just a gold look to the Ancient Sayian.

Not Sayian anything is wrong with the chart I just had an Idea and thought of sharing it with you, hoping it catches your eyes and gets you reading, Keep up the good art.
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DRAGONABALLNEXTEPOCH Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
omg you awesome fellow! ssj 4  as ancient saiyan.. 
ssj 4 wasnt the 4th form at all in gt as you could obtain it with ssj1 given the right circumstances.

i was planning on re doing ssj 4 myself in my manga..
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks!! :D I've never liked ssj4 as that, it doesn't match up with the rest at all.
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SuperDeityDeviant Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Oooh I like wat you did with descended ssj3s aura
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Dan7371 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014
Er, another thing, is Supreme Saiyan more powerful than Ancient Saiyan (in terms of hypothetical multipliers)?
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It is, haven't completely decided on it but the Ancient saiyan is the origin of the saiyan before they lost all their power through evolution. Now the supreme saiyan is completely new and doesn't go to its roots or anything. Haven't completely decided yet so I can't say.
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JustM3M0nt Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2014  Professional General Artist
Hey Elyas can I use some these similiar traits and some names in my forms.
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
preferably not, but if you do, please credit me.
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ilouze Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2013
I once had my theory on the SSJ4 or like you call it ( which I prefer by the way ) Ancient Saiyan and I'm really glad that it's similar to your's ! I will follow DBNG with impatience !
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Dan7371 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013
One more thing, what would Gogeta's SSJ3 be? Goku has Incomplete SSJ3 and Vegeta has descended SSJ3 so...
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, they both have separate parts to create the perfect ssj3 so if they fuse they'll have all the parts so Gogeta will be the perfect super saiyan 3.
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Yamato012 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Student Writer
Well done, would love to see you do a chart for my DBSW series.
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Dan7371 Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013
If 2 people of equal strength were to achieve Descended SSJ3 and Incomplete SSJ3 (assuming the latter didn't achieve it until now), would their power levels be the same? Also, really nice work, I love this chart :D
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No because to achieve the descended ssj3 the saiyan requires about twice the strength needed than when transforming into an incomplete ssj3. Also, the descended ssj3 is more powerful but uses up less power, unlike the incomplete which uses a lot of power, making the saiyan user tired and fall out of the transformation quickly, like Goku did in the series. Whereas the descended ssj3 can stay in the form for a longer amount of time, taking up to 10 days. 
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kiber66 Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013
Very interesting, couldn't have thought better myself. But which form is actually the strongest? The super sayian god or the ascended super sayian form? In my opinion it's the A.Super sayian form because if you think using the super sayian multiplier it could be 50 times stronger than the ascended sayian form no?
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
ascended? you mean descended? the ancient saiyan form is only a small amount stronger than the descended ssj3. Super saiyan god is in strength between perfect ssj3 and supreme saiyan. But supreme saiyan has a large digit multiplier so it basically creates a countless number for energy. Whereas ssjgod creates god ki as energy. However, the supreme ssj and the perfect ssj3 are still in the making so I cant tell for sure :P
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kiber66 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
Oopsie sorry, by ascended I mean ancient super sayian haha
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Z-Dragon Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2013

So half-bloods can't acquire SSJ3 form without needing a pure blood? If it's true, then is that possible for Half-Bloods to gain SSJ4 form or not?

 

What about Legendary SSJ like Broly had? It may be a separation form like SSJ God, but is that form for mutant saiyans like Broly only or something? I'd like to hear your theory about LSSJ form in your Series.

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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Half bloods are incapable of acquiring the ssj3 level. There are multiple incomplete forms before the perfect ssj3 but all require at least the full blood so a halfblood cant do that.
They can tap into their ancient power source but not acquire the ancient saiyan form. I am however planning on doing a halfblood chart someday.

LSSj is in my story nothing more than a DNA failure, a mutation or a disability. However, this disability increases the power of the Saiyan incredibly with the potential to grow as time passes. So as much as they say Broly is the Legendary saiyan, he's basically a disabled saiyan. (note that his speaking skills and behaviour are sometimes like that)
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CyrusNarcissus Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like charts like this. Are you still going to add the super saiyan with the black hair, and white hair, and freaking lot of hair?
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No black or white hair no. Lots of hair, maybe haha.
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SuperDeityDeviant Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
oh my ssj god lol im so curious to see the whole map of the ssj heritage in your comic i got a question can half bloods like 3.5 out of 4 reach anything above ssj2 with training and feelings or anyway possible(plus check out my new art i just switched over to sai paint i know im kinda late but i think it was a good one what do you think?




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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
no they can't, it requires full blood. That's why Gotenks can reach ssj3, because they become one. Trunks and Goten are both more than 0.5 out of 1 part saiyan so if they fuse they became a fullblood. 
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SuperAspergian Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2013
Certainly a more interesting take on the Saiyans transformation line than most Dragon Ball fan mangas out there, especially with the alternative SSJ3 forms and the incorporation of the SSJ God form. However can I suggest a name-change for the DBGT SSJ4 form to "Super Saiyan Prime" as it takes the Saiyan back to it's primal nature? It's just a suggestion bare in mind.
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ElyasArts Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I was thinking of that but I decided to go for ancient because of the way the storyline will explain it. That'll happen within this arc.
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yurestu Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
very cool. glad you made ssj4 a different line
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